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Gun Violence Part 2

Young people in the last decades have had to study more than academics—they’ve had to learn what to do when a person shows up to your school with a gun and starts shooting. And unfortunately those types of skills could help you anywhere these days—even on Capitol Hill. As the American pandemic of gun violence grows, so do the arguments about what can be done about it. Often those arguments are about the Second Amendment, but do we have the right to bear arms … right? Or are we arguing about it wrong? NoMoNo hits part two of our look at gun violence.

In episode 30, we talk with a researcher who asks if mass shootings and other public forms of gun violence are contagious, a gun owner who explains why he’s a liberal and supports gun owners’ rights, a couple of professors—one about the Second Amendment and another about guns as a public health issue. And we take a trip out to the shooting range with Henry Hutchinson to talk about safety and his perspective as a gun owner.


  • Henry Hutchinson – Gun Owner
  • JD Butter – Gun Owner
  • Peter Kierst – Constitutional Law Professor, University of New Mexico
  • David Hemenway – Professor of Health Policy, Director of the Harvard Injury Control Research Center, Harvard University
  •  Sherry Towers – Statistician and Data Scientist   



  • Henry Hutchinson for taking us out to practice shooting
  • Kaveh Mowahed for the editing help
  • Taylor Velazquez for her contributions
  • Our guests for offering their experiences, insight and expertise
  • Thanks to Jazztone the Producer, Cheo, Dahm Life, Business School, Sun Dog, and Oh Lawd Records for providing music to the show, Khaki, Pope Yesyesyall, and Bigawatt produced some of the show’s themes


No More Normal is brought to you by Your New Mexico Government, a collaboration between KUNM, New Mexico PBS and the Santa Fe Reporter. Funding for our coverage comes from the New Mexico Local News Fund, the Kellogg Foundation and KUNM listeners like you, with support for public media provided by the Thornburg Foundation.

We dedicate this and every episode to the memory of Hannah Colton. We love and miss you Hannah.