{"id":46007,"date":"2024-11-15T17:20:14","date_gmt":"2024-11-16T00:20:14","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.newmexicopbs.org\/productions\/newmexicoinfocus\/?p=46007"},"modified":"2024-11-18T13:30:02","modified_gmt":"2024-11-18T20:30:02","slug":"computer-says-no","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.newmexicopbs.org\/productions\/newmexicoinfocus\/computer-says-no\/","title":{"rendered":"\u2018Computer Says No\u2019\u00a0"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<div class=\"wp-block-buttons is-layout-flex wp-block-buttons-is-layout-flex\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-button has-custom-font-size is-style-fill has-small-font-size\"><a class=\"wp-block-button__link has-white-color has-vivid-cyan-blue-background-color has-text-color has-background wp-element-button\" href=\"https:\/\/lp.constantcontactpages.com\/su\/4bUtl6p\">Subscribe to NMiF Enews<\/a><\/div>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:20px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\">\n<figure class=\"aligncenter size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"576\" src=\"https:\/\/www.newmexicopbs.org\/productions\/newmexicoinfocus\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/11\/1821-Episode-Image-YT-Thumb-NM-Flag-AI-Background-1024x576.png\" alt=\"New Mexico flag waving against a digital background with numbers and connected lines.\" class=\"wp-image-45991\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.newmexicopbs.org\/productions\/newmexicoinfocus\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/11\/1821-Episode-Image-YT-Thumb-NM-Flag-AI-Background-1024x576.png 1024w, https:\/\/www.newmexicopbs.org\/productions\/newmexicoinfocus\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/11\/1821-Episode-Image-YT-Thumb-NM-Flag-AI-Background-300x169.png 300w, https:\/\/www.newmexicopbs.org\/productions\/newmexicoinfocus\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/11\/1821-Episode-Image-YT-Thumb-NM-Flag-AI-Background-1536x864.png 1536w, https:\/\/www.newmexicopbs.org\/productions\/newmexicoinfocus\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/11\/1821-Episode-Image-YT-Thumb-NM-Flag-AI-Background-24x14.png 24w, https:\/\/www.newmexicopbs.org\/productions\/newmexicoinfocus\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/11\/1821-Episode-Image-YT-Thumb-NM-Flag-AI-Background-36x20.png 36w, https:\/\/www.newmexicopbs.org\/productions\/newmexicoinfocus\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/11\/1821-Episode-Image-YT-Thumb-NM-Flag-AI-Background-48x27.png 48w, https:\/\/www.newmexicopbs.org\/productions\/newmexicoinfocus\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/11\/1821-Episode-Image-YT-Thumb-NM-Flag-AI-Background.png 1920w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n\n\n<p>We\u2019ve been looking for ways to address the growing prevalence of artificial intelligence over the last several months at New Mexico in Focus. This week we\u2019re happy to share a two-part interview from NMiF Correspondent and KUNM News Director Megan Kamerick, who spoke with two computer science experts who\u2019ve played an active role in crafting state legislation. One of the big themes you\u2019ll hear from both <a href=\"https:\/\/www.cs.unm.edu\/directory\/faculty-profiles\/melanie-moses.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">UNM\u2019s Dr. Melanie Moses<\/a> and <a href=\"https:\/\/www.santafe.edu\/people\/profile\/cristopher-moore\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Dr. Cris Moore<\/a> from the Santa Fe Institute is transparency. But there\u2019s a bit more nuance to that word in this context than how we traditionally think of it in relation to government function.&nbsp;&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Instead of probing human decision making as journalists have done for centuries, AI necessitates a different approach that unless formally required by government, might even be outside the understanding of the creators of specific AI models. And when government decides to use AI to make decisions that can impact the lives of New Mexicans, things could get especially hairy. Moore explained the problematic dynamic like this:&nbsp;&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u201cIf the government makes a decision that affects your life, that says, \u2018No you\u2019re not eligible for this social service\u2019&#8230; or maybe, \u2018We\u2019re going to carry out some punitive action on you,\u2019 I think you as a citizen in a democratic society deserve a pretty clear explanation of why. And it\u2019s not OK for the person on the other end of the line to say, \u2018Nope, computer says no.\u2019\u201d&nbsp;&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>That\u2019s one of many concerns posed by the professors during this week\u2019s show, another being the use of biased data with the intention of creating an AI model capable of unbiased decision making. Moore contends it\u2019s not possible. Just this summer, he spoke with the state Legislature\u2019s Courts, Corrections &amp; Justice Committee about AI and biased algorithms and how using data from a historically biased criminal justice system would inherently create biased decisions \u2014 when considering whether to release a defendant ahead of trial or in other situations.&nbsp;&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>It\u2019s all somewhat frightening, but thankfully we have experts like Moore and Moses working to make sure we stay ahead of it. While this conversation might lead to more questions than answers, they are all questions we should each spend time thinking about as this technology branches out into other aspects of our lives.&nbsp;&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I hope you enjoy the show.&nbsp;&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>-Lou DiVizio, Senior Producer&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-query is-layout-flow wp-block-query-is-layout-flow\"><ul class=\"wp-block-post-template is-layout-flow wp-block-post-template-is-layout-flow\"><li class=\"wp-block-post post-46002 post type-post status-publish format-standard has-post-thumbnail hentry category-our-land category-nmif-segments tag-1970s-activism tag-election-2024 tag-indigenous-leadership tag-indigenous-liberation tag-julia-bernal tag-laura-paskus tag-our-land tag-president-donald-trump tag-pueblo-action-alliance\">\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-columns alignwide is-layout-flex wp-container-core-columns-is-layout-9d6595d7 wp-block-columns-is-layout-flex\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-column is-layout-flow wp-block-column-is-layout-flow\" style=\"flex-basis:50%\"><figure style=\"aspect-ratio:16\/9;\" class=\"wp-block-post-featured-image\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.newmexicopbs.org\/productions\/newmexicoinfocus\/defending-home\/\" target=\"_self\"  ><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1920\" height=\"1080\" src=\"https:\/\/www.newmexicopbs.org\/productions\/newmexicoinfocus\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/11\/Segment-4-Julia-Bernal-Studio-2-Shot.jpg\" class=\"attachment-post-thumbnail size-post-thumbnail wp-post-image\" alt=\"Defending Home\" style=\"width:100%;height:100%;object-fit:cover;\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.newmexicopbs.org\/productions\/newmexicoinfocus\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/11\/Segment-4-Julia-Bernal-Studio-2-Shot.jpg 1920w, https:\/\/www.newmexicopbs.org\/productions\/newmexicoinfocus\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/11\/Segment-4-Julia-Bernal-Studio-2-Shot-300x169.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.newmexicopbs.org\/productions\/newmexicoinfocus\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/11\/Segment-4-Julia-Bernal-Studio-2-Shot-1024x576.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.newmexicopbs.org\/productions\/newmexicoinfocus\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/11\/Segment-4-Julia-Bernal-Studio-2-Shot-1536x864.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/www.newmexicopbs.org\/productions\/newmexicoinfocus\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/11\/Segment-4-Julia-Bernal-Studio-2-Shot-24x14.jpg 24w, https:\/\/www.newmexicopbs.org\/productions\/newmexicoinfocus\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/11\/Segment-4-Julia-Bernal-Studio-2-Shot-36x20.jpg 36w, https:\/\/www.newmexicopbs.org\/productions\/newmexicoinfocus\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/11\/Segment-4-Julia-Bernal-Studio-2-Shot-48x27.jpg 48w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1920px) 100vw, 1920px\" \/><\/a><\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-column is-layout-flow wp-block-column-is-layout-flow\" style=\"flex-basis:33.33%\"><h3 class=\"wp-block-post-title\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.newmexicopbs.org\/productions\/newmexicoinfocus\/defending-home\/\" target=\"_self\" >Defending Home<\/a><\/h3>\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-post-excerpt\"><p class=\"wp-block-post-excerpt__excerpt\">11.15.24 \u2013 Our Land\u2019s Laura Paskus sits down with Pueblo Action Alliance Executive Director Julia Bernal to discuss the many types&hellip; 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Correspondent:&nbsp;Lou DiVizio&nbsp; Guest:&nbsp;Anna&hellip; <\/p><\/div><\/div>\n<\/div>\n\n<\/li><li class=\"wp-block-post post-45993 post type-post status-publish format-standard has-post-thumbnail hentry category-nmif-segments tag-a-i tag-algorithms tag-artificial-intelligence tag-biased-algorithms tag-deep-fakes tag-dr-cris-moore tag-dr-melanie-moses tag-legislation tag-technology-2 tag-transparency\">\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-columns alignwide is-layout-flex wp-container-core-columns-is-layout-9d6595d7 wp-block-columns-is-layout-flex\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-column is-layout-flow wp-block-column-is-layout-flow\" style=\"flex-basis:50%\"><figure style=\"aspect-ratio:16\/9;\" class=\"wp-block-post-featured-image\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.newmexicopbs.org\/productions\/newmexicoinfocus\/why-lawmakers-should-be-concerned-about-ai\/\" target=\"_self\"  ><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1920\" height=\"1080\" src=\"https:\/\/www.newmexicopbs.org\/productions\/newmexicoinfocus\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/11\/Segment-1-AI-Chat-Computer-Chip-Graphic.jpg\" class=\"attachment-post-thumbnail size-post-thumbnail wp-post-image\" alt=\"Why Lawmakers Should Be Concerned About AI\" style=\"width:100%;height:100%;object-fit:cover;\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.newmexicopbs.org\/productions\/newmexicoinfocus\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/11\/Segment-1-AI-Chat-Computer-Chip-Graphic.jpg 1920w, https:\/\/www.newmexicopbs.org\/productions\/newmexicoinfocus\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/11\/Segment-1-AI-Chat-Computer-Chip-Graphic-300x169.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.newmexicopbs.org\/productions\/newmexicoinfocus\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/11\/Segment-1-AI-Chat-Computer-Chip-Graphic-1024x576.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.newmexicopbs.org\/productions\/newmexicoinfocus\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/11\/Segment-1-AI-Chat-Computer-Chip-Graphic-1536x864.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/www.newmexicopbs.org\/productions\/newmexicoinfocus\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/11\/Segment-1-AI-Chat-Computer-Chip-Graphic-24x14.jpg 24w, https:\/\/www.newmexicopbs.org\/productions\/newmexicoinfocus\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/11\/Segment-1-AI-Chat-Computer-Chip-Graphic-36x20.jpg 36w, https:\/\/www.newmexicopbs.org\/productions\/newmexicoinfocus\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/11\/Segment-1-AI-Chat-Computer-Chip-Graphic-48x27.jpg 48w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1920px) 100vw, 1920px\" \/><\/a><\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-column is-layout-flow wp-block-column-is-layout-flow\" style=\"flex-basis:33.33%\"><h3 class=\"wp-block-post-title\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.newmexicopbs.org\/productions\/newmexicoinfocus\/why-lawmakers-should-be-concerned-about-ai\/\" target=\"_self\" >Why Lawmakers Should Be Concerned About AI<\/a><\/h3>\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-post-excerpt\"><p class=\"wp-block-post-excerpt__excerpt\">11.15.24 \u2013 KUNM\u2019s Megan Kamerick speaks with two computer science experts about their work pushing elected officials to create privacy guardrails&hellip; 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