{"id":18548,"date":"2020-11-02T11:33:13","date_gmt":"2020-11-02T18:33:13","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.newmexicopbs.org\/productions\/newmexicoinfocus\/?p=18548"},"modified":"2020-11-02T11:33:13","modified_gmt":"2020-11-02T18:33:13","slug":"we-need-a-plan","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.newmexicopbs.org\/productions\/newmexicoinfocus\/we-need-a-plan\/","title":{"rendered":"We Need A Plan"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p><\/p>\n\n\n\n<iframe loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/anchor.fm\/nomorenormal\/embed\/episodes\/We-Need-A-Plan-elt8la\" height=\"102px\" width=\"400px\" frameborder=\"0\" scrolling=\"no\"><\/iframe>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:29px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p>The final presidential debate of 2020 got passing marks because the candidates managed to take turns. But rarely did they roll out the kind of action plans the moderator was looking for. She kept asking: If elected, what will you do about this big problem we are facing? Still, candidates did not venture into specifics. We think that was by design. The strategy was, make debate No. 1 so bad that by the time debate No. 2 comes around, expectations are so low, everyone will just be grateful it\u2019s not incoherent shouting and call it good. But in a time with multiple crises pressing down on us, specific plans can pull people together, provide direction and alleviate anxiety. So that\u2019s what this episode is all about. What do you want to hear candidates talking about? 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